washtub

Level 1 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:1)
  a +0 club
(3, 26, D:1)
  a +0 long sword
(4, 26, D:1)
  a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(6, 3, D:1)
  a bat skeleton
(7, 25, D:1)
  4 javelins
(12, 24, D:1)
  a hobgoblin skeleton
(25, 24, D:1)
  a hobgoblin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(26, 21, D:1)
  a +0 dagger
  a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(27, 9, D:1)
  a +0 whip
(29, 36, D:1)
  a +0 robe
(33, 16, D:1)
  a +0 hand axe
(38, 3, D:1)
  a rat corpse (skeletalised by now)
(47, 18, D:1)
  a +0 robe
(50, -9, D:1)
  a +0 sling
(50, -8, D:1)
  3 poisoned darts
(51, 20, D:1)
  a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now)
(52, 20, D:1)
  a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now)
(53, 15, D:1)
  a +0 dagger
(53, 21, D:1)
  a frilled lizard corpse (skeletalised by now)

Level 2 of the Dungeon
[Shop] Xeafidix's Book Shop
  a manual of Short Blades (880 gold)
  a parchment of Lesser Beckoning (89 gold)
  a parchment of Airstrike (148 gold)
  a parchment of Mephitic Cloud (118 gold)
  a parchment of Maxwell's Portable Piledriver (118 gold)
  a parchment of Ignition (267 gold)
  a parchment of Summon Cactus Giant (207 gold)
  a parchment of Awaken Armour (148 gold)
  a parchment of Borgnjor's Vile Clutch (178 gold)
(7, -13, D:2)
  a +0 dagger
(10, -10, D:2)
  a +0 whip
  a kobold skeleton
(10, 5, D:2)
  a +0 dagger
  a goblin skeleton
(18, 6, D:2)
  a +0 short sword
  4 stones
  a quokka skeleton
(18, 7, D:2)
  a +0 dagger
(19, 0, D:2)
  a +0 club
  a kobold skeleton
(20, 1, D:2)
  an adder skeleton
(22, 3, D:2)
  a ball python skeleton
(26, 1, D:2)
  an adder corpse (skeletalised by now)
(36, -3, D:2)
  a +0 short sword
  4 stones
  a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now)

Level 3 of the Dungeon
(7, -29, D:3)
  a +0 mace
(18, 13, D:3)
  a +0 robe
(19, -18, D:3)
  a +0 robe
(20, -21, D:3)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 leather armour
(36, 15, D:3)
  a +0 club
  a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(36, 17, D:3)
  a +0 dagger
(43, -8, D:3)
  a +0 club
(48, -21, D:3)
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 scale mail
(56, 0, D:3)
  a +0 rapier

Level 4 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:4)
  a +0 trident
(13, -5, D:4)
  an adder skeleton
(14, -42, D:4)
  an adder corpse (skeletalised by now)
(17, -43, D:4)
  a +0 club
(23, -6, D:4)
  a +0 dagger
(25, -9, D:4)
  an iguana corpse (skeletalised by now)
(30, -1, D:4)
  a +0 quarterstaff
(37, 2, D:4)
  a +0 whip
(45, -43, D:4)
  a +0 dagger of venom
(47, 3, D:4)
  a hobgoblin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(49, -41, D:4)
  a +0 hand axe
(51, 11, D:4)
  a +0 flail
(52, -12, D:4)
  a +0 dagger
(52, 2, D:4)
  4 stones
  a +0 dagger
(54, 10, D:4)
  a +0 dagger
(58, -24, D:4)
  an adder corpse (skeletalised by now)
(62, 1, D:4)
  a +0 whip
  a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now)

Level 5 of the Dungeon
[Shop] Efauqiel's Assorted Antiques
  a wand of roots (5) (324 gold)
  a box of beasts (1080 gold)
  a phantom mirror (1080 gold)
(0, 0, D:5)
  a +0 club
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(1, 0, D:5)
  a +0 club
  3 boomerangs
(2, 1, D:5)
  a +0 short sword
  a boomerang
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(12, 11, D:5)
  a +1 dagger of speed
  a +0 leather armour
  the goblin corpse of Ijyb (skeletalised by now)
(14, 1, D:5)
  a +0 giant club
(20, -2, D:5)
  a +0 robe
(22, 10, D:5)
  a +0 long sword
(26, 7, D:5)
  a +0 ring mail
(26, 16, D:5)
  a +0 ring mail
(27, 16, D:5)
  a parchment of Fulminant Prism
(34, 7, D:5)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
(41, 13, D:5)
  a hound corpse (skeletalised by now)
(44, -20, D:5)
  a +0 short sword of speed
  a +0 morningstar
(47, -1, D:5)
  a +0 leather armour
(50, 5, D:5)
  an adder corpse (skeletalised by now)
(54, 2, D:5)
  a +0 falchion

Level 6 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:6)
  a +7 dagger of venom
(4, 6, D:6)
  3 flux baubles
(8, 0, D:6)
  an adder skeleton
(9, 3, D:6)
  +0 steam dragon scales
  a steam dragon skeleton
(18, 29, D:6)
  a +0 rapier
(26, 5, D:6)
  a +0 ring mail
(27, 3, D:6)
  2 flux baubles
(30, 8, D:6)
  a +0 leather armour
(34, 11, D:6)
  an adder skeleton
(37, 12, D:6)
  a +0 shortbow
  a centaur skeleton
(38, 23, D:6)
  an adder skeleton
(39, 17, D:6)
  an adder skeleton
(40, 19, D:6)
  a +0 flail
  a +0 leather armour
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  an orc skeleton
(42, 14, D:6)
  a +0 robe
(44, 18, D:6)
  a +2 heavy flail
  an orc skeleton
(44, 19, D:6)
  a +0 leather armour
(45, 19, D:6)
  a +0 falchion
  an orc skeleton

Level 7 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:7)
  a +0 robe
(1, -2, D:7)
  a +0 leather armour
(2, -4, D:7)
  a +0 flail
  a +0 scale mail
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(3, -3, D:7)
  a +0 club
(4, -3, D:7)
  a +0 dagger
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(15, -37, D:7)
  6 poisoned darts
(15, -25, D:7)
  a +0 flail
(18, -19, D:7)
  a potion of moonshine
(33, -38, D:7)
  a +0 halberd
(33, -37, D:7)
  a +0 dagger
(33, -34, D:7)
  a +0 chain mail
  a +0 short sword
  the elf skeleton of Duvessa
(34, -38, D:7)
  a +0 robe
  a +0 dagger
(34, -37, D:7)
  a +0 spear
(35, -38, D:7)
  a +0 halberd
(39, 8, D:7)
  a +2 heavy halberd
  a +0 halberd
  a +0 scale mail
  a +0 spear
  a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now)
  a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now)
(40, 8, D:7)
  a +0 club
  a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now)
(42, 9, D:7)
  a +0 club
(44, -18, D:7)
  a +1 trident of venom
  a +0 ring mail
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(46, -20, D:7)
  a +0 mace
  a +0 sling
  a +0 plate armour
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(46, -19, D:7)
  a +0 sling
  a +0 dagger
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(47, -20, D:7)
  a +0 mace

Level 8 of the Dungeon
[Shop] Beowulf's Dragon-Slaying Spoils
  +1 steam dragon scales (658 gold)
  +2 acid dragon scales (728 gold)
  +2 swamp dragon scales (798 gold)
  +0 fire dragon scales (700 gold)
  +0 ice dragon scales (700 gold)
  +0 pearl dragon scales (1400 gold)
  +1 shadow dragon scales (1008 gold)
  +1 storm dragon scales (1008 gold)
  +0 golden dragon scales (1120 gold)
  quicksilver dragon scales (700 gold)
(0, 0, D:8)
  a +0 flail
(0, 1, D:8)
  a +0 short sword
(1, 1, D:8)
  a +0 flail
  a +0 scale mail
  a +3 hand axe
  a +0 dagger
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(2, -35, D:8)
  a +0 shortbow
  a centaur corpse (skeletalised by now)
(14, -11, D:8)
  a +0 chain mail
(15, -6, D:8)
  a parchment of Blink
(16, 7, D:8)
  a parchment of Searing Ray
(20, -20, D:8)
  a +0 flail
(25, 11, D:8)
  a -2 demon whip of venom
(28, -39, D:8)
  a +0 dagger of draining
(32, -13, D:8)
  a bullfrog skeleton
(36, -25, D:8)
  a +0 trident
  a +0 chain mail

Level 9 of the Dungeon
[Shop] Beggonon's Assorted Antiques
  a scarab talisman (362 gold)
  a scroll of identify (58 gold)
  a potion of attraction (87 gold)
  a +4 flail of draining (820 gold)
  a +0 hand axe (87 gold)
(0, 0, D:9)
  a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now)
(1, 0, D:9)
  a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now)
(8, -17, D:9)
  a +0 plate armour
(10, -25, D:9)
  a steam dragon corpse (skeletalised by now)
(13, -35, D:9)
  a +0 flail
(17, -24, D:9)
  a +0 great mace
(22, -17, D:9)
  a +0 chain mail
(28, -21, D:9)
  a +0 scale mail
(28, -8, D:9)
  a +0 plate armour
(29, 1, D:9)
  a +0 scale mail
(35, -53, D:9)
  a +0 giant club
  a +0 dire flail
(36, -1, D:9)
  a +0 shortbow
  a centaur skeleton
(40, -34, D:9)
  a +0 chain mail
(40, -5, D:9)
  a howler monkey skeleton
(40, -2, D:9)
  a howler monkey skeleton
(42, -6, D:9)
  a howler monkey skeleton
(47, -47, D:9)
  a +0 club
  a +0 leather armour
(48, -48, D:9)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  a +0 battleaxe
  a +0 chain mail
(49, -21, D:9)
  a +1 halberd
  a +0 robe
(50, -49, D:9)
  a +0 club
  an orc skeleton
(50, -48, D:9)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  an orc skeleton
(50, -47, D:9)
  a +4 scimitar of freezing
  a +0 robe
(54, -25, D:9)
  a +0 long sword
  a +0 robe
(58, -47, D:9)
  a +0 dire flail
  a +0 giant club
  a two-headed ogre skeleton
(60, -48, D:9)
  a +3 battleaxe
  a +0 robe

Level 10 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:10)
  a +0 spear
(1, -1, D:10)
  a +0 halberd
(2, 2, D:10)
  a +0 whip
(3, 1, D:10)
  a +0 whip
  a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now)
(4, 0, D:10)
  a +0 spear
  a +0 scale mail
(5, -43, D:10)
  6 poisoned darts
(6, -30, D:10)
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
(12, -23, D:10)
  a +0 robe
  a +2 dagger of draining
(13, -26, D:10)
  a +0 plate armour
  a +1 dire flail of protection
  an orc skeleton
(13, -22, D:10)
  a +0 robe
  a +0 dagger
  an orc skeleton
(14, 5, D:10)
  a +0 leather armour
(24, -11, D:10)
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
(24, -10, D:10)
  a water moccasin corpse (skeletalised by now)
(26, -15, D:10)
  a basilisk skeleton
(26, -13, D:10)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
(26, -12, D:10)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
(26, -11, D:10)
  a +0 club
  2 boomerangs
  an orc corpse (skeletalised by now)
(27, -13, D:10)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
(28, -16, D:10)
  a wolf skeleton
(30, -19, D:10)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(39, -36, D:10)
  2 boomerangs
(40, 7, D:10)
  a +0 falchion
  a +0 ring mail
(41, 8, D:10)
  a +0 hand axe
(42, 8, D:10)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
(43, 8, D:10)
  a +0 mace
  a +0 whip
  an orc skeleton
(52, -29, D:10)
  a +0 trident
(57, -25, D:10)
  a +0 spear
(63, 3, D:10)
  a +0 chain mail

Level 11 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:11)
  a wand of polymorph (4)

Level 12 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:12)
  a +0 trident
  a +0 robe
(0, 1, D:12)
  a +1 dagger of venom
  a +0 ring mail
(1, -1, D:12)
  a +0 mace
  a +0 leather armour
  an orc skeleton
(3, -1, D:12)
  a +0 morningstar
(21, -2, D:12)
  a +0 long sword
  a +0 robe
(21, 1, D:12)
  an orb of energy
(26, -8, D:12)
  a black mamba corpse (skeletalised by now)
(27, -8, D:12)
  a black mamba corpse (skeletalised by now)
  a black mamba corpse (skeletalised by now)
(33, -9, D:12)
  a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now)
(35, -5, D:12)
  a +0 shortbow
  a centaur skeleton
(35, -4, D:12)
  a howler monkey skeleton
(35, 3, D:12)
  a +2 vampiric trident
(36, -5, D:12)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 leather armour
  an orc skeleton
  a howler monkey skeleton
(37, -9, D:12)
  a manticore corpse (skeletalised by now)
(37, -6, D:12)
  a +0 flail
(38, -5, D:12)
  a +0 hand axe
  a +0 leather armour
  an orc skeleton
(39, -8, D:12)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(39, -5, D:12)
  a yak skeleton
(43, -8, D:12)
  a +0 giant spiked club
  a +0 giant club
  a +0 sling
(48, -16, D:12)
  a +0 dagger
(50, 5, D:12)
  a +0 flail

Level 13 of the Dungeon
(0, 0, D:13)
  a +0 orcbow
  a +0 orcbow
  a centaur corpse
  a centaur corpse
(0, 1, D:13)
  a +0 shortbow
(1, 0, D:13)
  a +0 shortbow
  a centaur corpse
(1, 1, D:13)
  a +0 orcbow
(8, 7, D:13)
  a +0 giant spiked club
  a +0 dire flail
(8, 11, D:13)
  3 large rocks
(9, 3, D:13)
  a +0 mace
(17, 0, D:13)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  a kobold corpse
(22, 25, D:13)
  a +0 war axe
  a +0 robe
(23, 23, D:13)
  6 silver javelins
(23, 24, D:13)
  a hog corpse
(23, 25, D:13)
  a +3 long sword
  (unseen)
(24, 23, D:13)
  a +0 war axe
  a +0 robe
  a meliai corpse
(25, 23, D:13)
  a hog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(25, 24, D:13)
  a +1 hand axe of electrocution (still there?)
  a +0 robe (still there?)
  a +2 war axe (still there?)
  a +0 leather armour (still there?)
  a +2 kite shield of positive energy (still there?)
(26, 22, D:13)
  a +6 long sword
  (unseen)
(27, 22, D:13)
  a hog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(32, -17, D:13)
  a +1 dagger of electrocution
  a +0 robe

the Ecumenical Temple

Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
(0, 0, Lair:1)
  6 poisoned darts
(22, 7, Lair:1)
  a blink frog skeleton
(25, 14, Lair:1)
  a wyvern skeleton
(34, -3, Lair:1)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(34, 28, Lair:1)
  a wyvern corpse (skeletalised by now)
(35, 33, Lair:1)
  a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now)
(38, 28, Lair:1)
  a +0 helmet
(40, 10, Lair:1)
  a potion of moonshine

Level 2 of the Lair of Beasts
(0, 0, Lair:2)
  a polar bear corpse (skeletalised by now)
(11, 17, Lair:2)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(12, 16, Lair:2)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(13, 16, Lair:2)
  a dream sheep corpse (skeletalised by now)
(15, 22, Lair:2)
  a +0 glaive
(18, -10, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(20, -13, Lair:2)
  a black mamba skeleton
(20, -11, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(22, -10, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(29, -10, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(29, 14, Lair:2)
  a staff of conjuration
(38, -1, Lair:2)
  a +0 long sword
(39, 16, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(41, 3, Lair:2)
  a yak skeleton
(42, 1, Lair:2)
  a yak skeleton
(49, -17, Lair:2)
  a basilisk skeleton
(52, 22, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(54, 5, Lair:2)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(56, 15, Lair:2)
  a +0 flail
(58, 18, Lair:2)
  a rime drake skeleton
(59, -12, Lair:2)
  a yak skeleton
(59, -9, Lair:2)
  a yak skeleton

Level 3 of the Lair of Beasts
(0, 0, Lair:3)
  a +0 scimitar
(3, -3, Lair:3)
  a bullfrog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(11, 9, Lair:3)
  a +0 war axe
(19, 1, Lair:3)
  a +0 cloak
(20, 35, Lair:3)
  a komodo dragon skeleton
(21, 21, Lair:3)
  a potion of moonshine
(21, 22, Lair:3)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(35, 8, Lair:3)
  a bullfrog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(38, -15, Lair:3)
  a yak skeleton
(41, -18, Lair:3)
  a blink frog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(43, 30, Lair:3)
  a yak skeleton
(44, -18, Lair:3)
  a blink frog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(44, 0, Lair:3)
  a mountainshell skeleton
(45, 29, Lair:3)
  a yak skeleton
(45, 33, Lair:3)
  a yak skeleton
(46, 32, Lair:3)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(47, 14, Lair:3)
  a +0 scale mail
(51, 16, Lair:3)
  a bullfrog corpse (skeletalised by now)
(52, 7, Lair:3)
  a scarab talisman
(52, 12, Lair:3)
  a +0 shortbow
  an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now)
(53, 36, Lair:3)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(54, -19, Lair:3)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(54, 16, Lair:3)
  an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now)
(56, 36, Lair:3)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(60, 19, Lair:3)
  a potion of moonshine

Level 4 of the Lair of Beasts
(7, 8, Lair:4)
  a human skeleton
(7, 9, Lair:4)
  a human skeleton
(8, 9, Lair:4)
  a human skeleton
(21, 8, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(23, 8, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(24, 9, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(25, 4, Lair:4)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(25, 8, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(26, 7, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(28, 20, Lair:4)
  a staff of conjuration
(31, 31, Lair:4)
  a +4 double sword
  4 javelins
  a +0 scale mail
  the orc corpse of Urug (skeletalised by now)
(37, 7, Lair:4)
  a +0 dagger
(39, 31, Lair:4)
  a basilisk skeleton
(49, 36, Lair:4)
  a yak skeleton
(49, 42, Lair:4)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(49, 43, Lair:4)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(50, 33, Lair:4)
  a komodo dragon skeleton
(51, 29, Lair:4)
  a water moccasin skeleton

Level 5 of the Lair of Beasts
(0, 0, Lair:5)
  a parchment of Permafrost Eruption
(0, 2, Lair:5)
  2 javelins
(1, 1, Lair:5)
  a +0 giant spiked club
  a +2 plate armour of resonance
(1, 9, Lair:5)
  a +0 spear
(1, 15, Lair:5)
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
  a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now)
(2, 4, Lair:5)
  a +0 rapier of holy wrath
  a +0 robe
  a spriggan corpse (skeletalised by now)
(2, 8, Lair:5)
  a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now)
(3, -4, Lair:5)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  a spriggan corpse (skeletalised by now)
(3, -3, Lair:5)
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 robe
  a +0 buckler
  a spriggan corpse (skeletalised by now)
(4, -5, Lair:5)
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
(4, -4, Lair:5)
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 robe
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
(7, 52, Lair:5)
  a +0 sling
(9, 33, Lair:5)
  a serpent talisman
(12, 29, Lair:5)
  a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now)
(12, 30, Lair:5)
  a hydra corpse (skeletalised by now)
(13, -1, Lair:5)
  a dream sheep skeleton
(19, 42, Lair:5)
  a +0 ring mail
(19, 43, Lair:5)
  a dream sheep corpse (skeletalised by now)
(21, 23, Lair:5)
  a black bear skeleton
(21, 42, Lair:5)
  a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)
(22, 27, Lair:5)
  a yak skeleton
(22, 41, Lair:5)
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 robe
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 robe
  a +0 buckler
  a hydra skeleton
(23, 9, Lair:5)
  a +0 dagger
  a +0 robe
  a +2 buckler
  a spriggan skeleton
(25, 10, Lair:5)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(25, 20, Lair:5)
  a cane toad skeleton
(25, 27, Lair:5)
  a yak skeleton
(28, 35, Lair:5)
  a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now)
(31, 26, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(31, 27, Lair:5)
  an elephant skeleton
(32, 28, Lair:5)
  an elephant skeleton
(33, 28, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(33, 29, Lair:5)
  an elephant skeleton
(34, 10, Lair:5)
  a +0 short sword
  a +0 robe
(35, 12, Lair:5)
  a +0 vampiric short sword
  a +0 robe
  a wolf skeleton
(36, 14, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(37, 14, Lair:5)
  a +0 rapier
  a +0 robe
  a +0 buckler
(37, 48, Lair:5)
  a +0 sling
(38, 11, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(39, 11, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(40, 11, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(40, 43, Lair:5)
  a blink frog skeleton
(41, 13, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(41, 44, Lair:5)
  a cane toad skeleton
(43, 15, Lair:5)
  a +0 mace
  a polar bear skeleton
(46, 19, Lair:5)
  a cane toad skeleton
(52, 12, Lair:5)
  a cane toad skeleton
(52, 39, Lair:5)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(52, 40, Lair:5)
  a +0 rapier
  a +0 robe
(52, 41, Lair:5)
  a komodo dragon skeleton
(58, 51, Lair:5)
  a +0 rapier
(59, 20, Lair:5)
  a komodo dragon skeleton
(61, 14, Lair:5)
  a water moccasin skeleton
(62, 24, Lair:5)
  a wolf skeleton
(65, 49, Lair:5)
  a water moccasin corpse (skeletalised by now)